Should those behind the “muhamad” / “innocence of Islam” video be prosecuted?


Short answer…yes.

It is increasingly clear that the video, “Innocence of Muslims” which sparked protests in Egypt, and provided a window of oppurtunity for attacks killing several at the US Embassy in Libya, was intended to cause just such reactions.

It has become clear that the Sam Bacile,  “California Israelli Real Estate millionaire” supposedly behind the film does not even exist. Israel was quick to say they have no record of any such citizen.

Instead, an Egyptian Coptic christian in sothern california, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, who is currently on parole for  “financial crimes” (an intricate scheme using fake bank accounts and stolen SS numbers, which resulted in a 21 month sentence and $790,000 in fines and/or restiution) was behind this clip.  It is also being reported he was previously arrested as a methamphetamine cook in the Los Angeles area, to which he plead quilty and was sentenced to one year with three years probation).

With another egyptian coptic christian activist, Morris Sadek, based in Virgina being behind sending it to arabic news networks just prior to 9/11.

And Pastor Terry Jones, famous for his Q’uaran Burning stunts, “promoting” it with his International Judge Muhamad Day on 9/11.

Also involved were Steve Klein, who founded the anti-muslim, anti-mormon, and anti-jehovahs witness group “Courageous Christians United” . He now heads a group the sothern poverty law center lists as a hate group, the “Concerned Citizens for the first Amendment” . Klein has also made grandiose claims about rooting out numerous Al Queada cells in southern california.

Several of the actors in the clip have been tracked down and all have told the same story. The “movie” they were hired for was named “Desert Warrior” and that the offensive dialogue was dubbed in later. They had no idea what they were participating in.

All indications are at this point that this goes beyond hate speech, which as distasteful as it is, is protected, and has crossed the line into, as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes phrased : “shouting fire in a crowded theater” . It appears the timing of this was intentional- to provoke a response from radical muslims to further justify hatred of all muslims.

And while those responsible for the violence and deaths in the middle east need to be prosecuted- so do those who intentionally, and callously, orchestrated this chain of events.

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5 Responses to Should those behind the “muhamad” / “innocence of Islam” video be prosecuted?

  1. Why are those on the left so ready to shred the constitution in the name of security over commitment to American values of freedom? First the Patriot Act in the name of security….now free speech is being rolled back to accommodate a culture hostile to ours (trust me….they will not rest until sharia is in full effect). What next?

    • Excuse me? You do realize it was the RIGHT that pushed the Patriot Act. It was the GOP in the House that just voted to extend the warrantless wiretapping (only 7 republicans voting no- 111 democrats doing so).

      This has nothing to do with “free speech- which if you read my post you would see- as distasteful as it is it IS protected.

      But the evidence increasingly seems to show this was a calculated attempt to provoke violence to further an agenda. Not simple freedom of speech but an attempt, and a sucessful one at that, to provoke violence.

  2. Remember “Cop Killer” by Ice T from back in the day? That was as brazen an attempt to provoke violence as was the movie “The Birth of A Nation”.

    Slippery slope antics like subjective judgements about whether art was meant to provoke or not is just way too dangerous to be shredding the Constitution for. The GOP may have passed it but its Democrats that continue to be accomplices by not standing up and putting limits on this crap. The Patriot Act served its purpose just like the war did but it won’t go away. It just sticks with us like gum on the bottom of a shoe.

    • We are NOT talking about art meant to provoke. What we ARE talking about is a concerted attempt to not just put this “Art” out there,(it has been out for months in english) but to intentionally send (an arabic dubbed copy) of it to the arab world press just before 9/11 with the sole intention of provoking a reaction.

      I am not even saying these people, at this point, deserve to be punished. But this does not to be investigated/prosecuted, and if it is found there was a clear intent to cause deaths and undermine US policy then yes- punishment is warranted.

      To compare what this series of events appears to actually be to ice-t or birth of a nation is disingenuous at best.

  3. talesfromthelou says:

    Great. A bunch of moronic hateful assholes succeeded in bringing their evil agenda to the top of news. And they call themselves Christians ? I would lock them up with a copy of the 10 commandments engraved in their cell wall. “thou shall not kill” Remember that line ? It’s not a suggestion eedjits.

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