Cliven Bundy, the BLM, and the right-wing nuts hypocrisy

If you watch or read more normal news sources you may have seen some limited coverage of this developing story in Nevada. If you check the “news” sources of the right wing(nuts) you most certainly have.

Clive Bundy is a rancher in Clark County, NV, who grazes his nearly 1,000 head herd of cattle on BLM (public) lands. A common enough thing in the west- where like so many other destructive industries the federal government gives away land at “fees” far, far below the going commercial rate (often at what amounts to a loss).

But of course Mr. Bundy believes he has some god given right to the land, and has refused to pay even the below cost fee of  $1.35 per head per month for 20 years. So after many, many years of legal battles, and issues more recently including protections of the endangered desert tortoise, the Feds have moved in to seize the cattle and forcibly remove them from public lands. With claims that Bundy owes taxpayers somewhere between $300K and $1 million in back fees.

And of course the articles and reader comments on the right wing nut “news” sources are calling- whether thinly veiled or openly, for confrontation and violence.

Anyone who is paying attention already knows that the red states whine and moan about “government handouts” such as social safety net programs. And know that hypocritically the red states already take far more from the federal government then they put in.

And here again we have a shining example of hypocrisy. Someone who is offered an unfair business advantage, a handout from the federal government/taxpayers to be able to graze their cattle at rates far below market fees. Someone who refuses to pay even these heavily taxpayer subsidized fees insisting they have some sole right to the lands held in trust for ALL americans. (and let us not forget- for generations the federal government, ie, us taxpayers have been giving these handouts to traditionally republican industries- lumber, mining, oil and gax extraction, cattle ranching, agriculture).

I am not sure which is more disturbing here- the general hypocrisy at the root of all this, or the calls for militias and armed violence in this case. Time will tell how this plays out.



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I am a criminal. Because I have used cannabis and psychedelics extensively. I have tried many other drugs, but never cared for the uppers, downers, or dissociatives. I love craft beer, and absinthe, but don't care much for alcohols effects- which quite frankly, are boring and dangerous. Science is my religion. I am in my 40's, and have travelled extensively. And often forced myself outside of my confort zone. I am employed, a respected member of my communtiy, an animal lover, an environmentalist, a political junkie, and the realities I have experienced continue to push me further to the left of the political spectrum.
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3 Responses to Cliven Bundy, the BLM, and the right-wing nuts hypocrisy

  1. Barneysday says:

    The definition of social welfare is dependent totally upon who is receiving the handouts. The Wing Nuts hypocrisy is beyond comprehension.

  2. Proud Patriot says:

    You have no idea what you are talking about here. You do not know that in order to pay the BLM, you must first sign a contract with them pertaining to every detail about your animals grazing on the property. “In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher’s permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years. As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM. Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay. Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us. He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away. Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow – – not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land. Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price.

    If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand. Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are “suspended,” but not removed. Unfortunately, my family has thousands of “suspended” AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen. This is the very thing that Clive Bundy singlehandedly took a stand against. Thank you, Clive, from a rancher who considers you a hero.”

    You would be better off sticking to topics you know something about such as drugs – God knows there is certainly a need there.

    • Maybe you should not be so judgemental and not jump to conclusions. I am, in fact, intimately familiar with the BLM and AMU’s, and have been involved in some aspect of agriculture my entire life.

      Yes- the BLM- the Bureau of lumber and mining or the Bureau of livestock and mining depending on where you are in the country can be a nightmare to deal with- as with any federal agency. But they also most frequently hand out sweetheart deals- well below market rates where the real costs are subsidized by the taxpayer.

      But that is neither here nor there in this discussion. (Which, BTW, the BLM backed off to prevent bloodshed [and political nightmares] after armed militias showed up).

      This case was- pure and simple, about someone who felt they had some right to land that belongs to all americans so they could run a commercial, for profit enterprise.

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